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Title: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: sbmiano on July 16, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
Here are a series of pictures from the Camaro nationals.  This is what I lost points on.  Any input is always helpful.  Looking for the correct parts if anyone can help.

Thanks

These first four are spoiler hardware
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f78609945ed29e0daf05d9d78c2afade/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ea629ac0c38516c29988f22e1006caf1/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao2_250.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/23ece2497877b91608fed7de15676c52/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao3_250.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9dc00d4500524dcd6221e6965c8d49c8/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao4_250.jpg)

Battery cable clip to alternator
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2c60b89548cd76fedfb12cbf6eae5061/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao6_250.jpg)

Heater hose bracket to alternator
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ecafc796228b5f04ec46ce158eb0063a/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao7_250.jpg)

Fan shroud bolt
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2018cdcf1de73ede338a35548d4b8386/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao8_250.jpg)

Horn relay
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/12f855779102e28d5ec00fdf09b4a5a9/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao9_250.jpg)

Carb spring
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/544e18860cc99ec686cb15afbf4ea3ba/tumblr_mq1f6tA0NQ1qjmjdao5_250.jpg)
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: x77-69z28 on July 17, 2013, 02:45:47 AM
Hard to tell from the photos of the spoiler nuts, but they should have an integrated washer. The pic looks like a shouldered nut. My alternator Brkt clip faces the other way, but I don't think you would lose points for that. Your negative cable attaches to the thermostat housing correct? Your horn relay should be 1/4 counterclockwise so you can read DELCO REMY from the top. I don't know what's wrong with the heater hose Brkt or fan shroud bolt.
Buddy
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: jims69 on July 17, 2013, 03:08:00 AM
I don't know what's wrong with the heater hose bracket or fan shroud bolt either.   They look just like mine
Jim
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: BULLITT65 on July 17, 2013, 07:31:36 AM
my nuts look like they have a bigger washer, and the studs on my spoiler are different.
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: JKZ27 on July 17, 2013, 12:55:06 PM
Should the fan shroud bolt have a larger washer and/or a smaller hex head?
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: sbmiano on July 17, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
well gentlemen at the legends judging i am told that the heater hose bracket is suppose to be silver, the battery clip in wrong, the studs are fine but the hardware is wrong on the spoiler, the horn relay is wrong, and as for the shroud bolt that was wrong too!  This comes from the two guys that judged this car, Jerry M. and Larry C.  I am very curious on the silver color the heater hose bracket should be?

I am only a year into studying camaros and 10 mos into owning this one, but I have alot of time on my hands and have done a ton of research.  I just cant seem to get it right lol. 

This is a 04D LA car.  There are alot of other things but in do time.  This car scored 91.3% of the 5000 point legends show.
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: jims69 on July 17, 2013, 02:15:14 PM
A silver heater hose bracket???????????  What is that all about?   Mine is black, its been black since the car was new
, my sister's car has a black heater hose bracket too, and so does my cousins.....
I've never seen a silver heater hose bracket.

Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: Edgemontvillage on July 17, 2013, 02:17:27 PM
The photo details of your horn relay aren't great however from what I can see it appears the case is bright zinc or even polished. I can't see if it has the correct stamping however here is what it should look like.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7292/9fwy.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/6992/0g2i.jpg)
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: tmodel66 on July 17, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
Call me crazy but I would have to say somebody screwed up on the heater hose bracket. I've been pulling wrenches since buck was calf and I ain't never seen a silver one.
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: 69Z28 on July 17, 2013, 03:33:42 PM
Was just looking thru Jerry M's 2nd edition book on the heater bracket and there are some examples on page 13 and 91 that show brackets that are pretty dark in color. Don't look silver to me. Further in towards the big block section there is one pic where the bracket actually looks as black as the alternator bracket.


Here's a link from the Discussion forum with engine bay pics.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10034.0;all
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: sbmiano on July 17, 2013, 09:33:38 PM
any input on the carb spring? 
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: 1968 Z28 on July 17, 2013, 09:49:24 PM
What did the judges tell you about the spring?  Here is a link to a post in the General section showing the carb spring....look at reply #4 and reply #6.

     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10034.0;all (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10034.0;all)
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: JohnZ on July 18, 2013, 12:27:29 AM
Pics below of my original 02D '69 spoiler hardware, heater hose bracket, and battery cable retainer clip.
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: jims69 on July 18, 2013, 04:38:50 AM
My car's heater hose clamp looks just like that.

Jim
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: x77-69z28 on July 18, 2013, 04:48:50 AM
Mine too!
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: Hans L on July 18, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
The photo details of your horn relay aren't great however from what I can see it appears the case is bright zinc or even polished. I can't see if it has the correct stamping however here is what it should look like.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/7292/9fwy.jpg)


Interesting - it appears SBMiano and yours have clear connectors while the horn relay on my '69 Z 04B is has a black connector (I assume it's orginal) - not sure which is correct or if both are - maybe that's the issue?

(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t478/jwlittooy/Plating/BoltsBatchIV41_zps6ae685d8.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/jwlittooy/media/Plating/BoltsBatchIV41_zps6ae685d8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: Hans L on July 18, 2013, 04:29:03 PM
Some more background on correct Horn Relay's - 862 vs 890's:   http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2406.0
Title: Re: 1969 Z 28 pictures looking for input
Post by: ban617 on July 31, 2013, 02:52:19 AM
 I think the clear relays were early in 69 jan / feb and black after that.....